indispensable: (universality.)
Alhaitham ([personal profile] indispensable) wrote in [community profile] shellphones2024-06-02 11:33 am

text + image; an invitation

Type: Text (with image)
Sender ID: vulturvolans (Alhaitham)
To: Public
Subject: Wedding Invitation
Warnings: 500% Gay. You have been warned.

[This particular image will appear on the network without any prior warning one fine day. One will quickly be able to deduce that it is a photo taken from a collection of similar looking invites nearby.]


[Transcript:
Kaveh & Alhaitham
Invite you to share our joy
June 18th
Latrommi (Ignore the fact that it says Eltrut shhh)]


This is Alhaitham.

Kaveh and I are hosting a celebration as detailed above. RSVP with him if you wish to attend so that we can make the necessary arrangements. You may also do the same with me, but note that I have changed my shellphone ID to the one you currently see.


[...and yeah he's just gonna end it there. Eloquent as always, huh?]
yuezun: (action: thinking aloud)

[personal profile] yuezun 2024-06-05 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
[This really doesn't help him know who is joining whose family. Did mortals not consider that important?

...maybe they didn't. How odd. Was it because of how short their lives were? Possibly. But then how did they keep track of whose children were whose?]


If neither of you are joining the other's family, whose name will your children have?
empyrean_mirror: (82)

[not here]

[personal profile] empyrean_mirror 2024-06-05 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
[ACTIVELY WHEEZING.]
empyrean_mirror: (75)

[personal profile] empyrean_mirror 2024-06-05 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
WE BIOLOGICALLY CANNOT HAVE CHILDREN WHY NOT START WITH THAT?
yuezun: (neutral: hunt: curious: confused)

[personal profile] yuezun 2024-06-05 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that important? Do your people not recognize adoption or naming of a non-blood heir?
empyrean_mirror: (83)

[personal profile] empyrean_mirror 2024-06-05 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No, of course they do, that's just--you phrased it as having children, not adopting, they are different verbs!
yuezun: (neutral: convo: attention 3)

[personal profile] yuezun 2024-06-05 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You are being pedantic. If they are yours, then you have them and, if adopted, they take your name. The means of the having doesn't change that they are had. The specifics of how they are had is important for certain contracts and the matters of inheritance. But they are still had.
empyrean_mirror: (53)

[personal profile] empyrean_mirror 2024-06-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
what kind of--

we're not planning on having children but in the event we had, they would be the sole inheritor of both of our properties. We're hardly important enough to merit all these contractual negotiations.

What's mine is his, and what's his is mine.
yuezun: (hunt: pout: convo: explain it again)

[personal profile] yuezun 2024-06-05 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You share property in all ways?

[Certainly, if he married... someone, he would give her the key to every treasure pavilion in Silent Moon Palace. She would have clothes made from only the finest materials. Whatever foods she wanted she would have only to ask for them. Whatever made her happy, he would ensure was provided - he already made that a rule, after all. Both in the Three Realms and here, on the Phantom Moon. But that was somewhat different than both of them sharing equally in all property. If she had any property to bring into the marriage, it would remain hers. If she decided she wanted something and no one else could have it, even him, well... if it made her happy and made her willing to stay with him, then he would allow it. Whatever she wanted. She had only to ask.

He would bring the world - any world - to its knees and give it to her if she asked it of him. He wished she would ask so he would know what to give her. She wouldn't even have to share it with him after.]


Your manner of doing things is not how this venerable one understands it is done in the Three Realms. It is normal for mortals or for only your world?
Edited 2024-06-05 23:37 (UTC)
empyrean_mirror: (8)

[personal profile] empyrean_mirror 2024-06-05 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It varies by nation but the jointure of properties is common, yeah?

It is a union of two families into one. And how would we file our taxes otherwise?
yuezun: (think: give it some time)

[personal profile] yuezun 2024-06-06 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
It is not usually the union of two families into one. It is one person from one family joining another. The two families then have ties to each other, strong political preferences, but are not considered one family. The families do not share the same surname and there are expectations on personal loyalties and, indeed, who in the family is responsible for the taxes.

Property belongs to whomever it belongs to. The bride brings in what she brings in and it is hers. The groom brings the rest and it is his. If they choose to share it in any way, it can be shared. What is earned after the marriage is divided based on the contract. If there is no contract, then it's assumed to be shared property, but claims can still be made.


[For someone like him, there were other details that would have to be ironed out, but whomever he married would become not only his wife, but the Moon Queen of Cangyanhai. Honored as he was honored and expected to be obeyed within certain aspects as if her word was his. In other aspects...]
yuezun: (thinky: thunky)

[personal profile] yuezun 2024-06-05 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
[Not planning on having children. That...



Hold on Alhaitham, you've just thrown his cultural-based assumptions on marriage and families into question.


He understood not being able to have blood children - though for immortals that was less of a worry. If one could not carry the child for some reason, a lotus flower or some other vessel was a perfectly acceptable place to store the seed until it was grown enough to be born. But not planning on it at all after marriage?

Wait... could that have been why Orchid was upset with the actions of his future self? Because he supposedly told people they were married and expecting a child? Did she not want children?]


This venerable one... appreciates this new insight into mortal marriages.