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[telepathicignorance]

Type:Text
Sender ID: telepathicignorance (Sidestep)
To: Everyone
Subject: Sidestep wants to do something about that alchemist
Warnings: Implications and possible discussion of slavery and sexual exploitation, planning to inflict violence on a (deserving) alchemist

You guys saw that alchemist asking for help "bringing back" his wife, right?

Well, he didn't. He created two new wives instead. You've probably seen them attacking the populace.

I don't know if he's ordering them to do this or if they need to feed on men or what, but if they don't please him he'll kill them and make new ones. I don't think it's a good idea to let someone run around creating and discarding living things on a whim like that.

Also, if we end up having to kill his creations he's just going to keep making new ones.

Ranma and I are going after him, but we could use some help. If you want to join us you can meet us at (They give a location far enough from the alchemist's house as to not arouse suspicion or set off any potential guards.)

(ooc: The log for attacking the alchemist is here!)

Comments

voice; passimclamoribus

[passimclamoribus]

Well aren't we all oh so noble.

Technically speaking, they are his property. The alchemist can do as he sees fit with what is his. If we use the claim that we don't like what he is doing to what belongs to him, that opens it up for anyone to be criticized thusly.

[telepathicignorance]

(Well that's an instant rage button.)

People aren't property.

[passimclamoribus]

How can you be so certain that these creatures can be defined as "people?"

[telepathicignorance]

How can you be certain they can't?

[passimclamoribus]

My dear, the onus is not in proving that they can't be, but are they.

[telepathicignorance]

(Sidestep manages to have the presence of mind to set their shellphone down for a moment because Shiny doesn't want this conversation to end prematurely because they broke it.

So enjoy a long pause.)

And if I asked you to prove you're a person?

[passimclamoribus]

A presence of a soul would indicate that I am, though many would still claim otherwise.

[telepathicignorance]

Is this the created life can't have souls argument again?

Because I'd like to see you prove you have one, asshole.

[passimclamoribus]

I would highly encourage you not to put words in my mouth. Don't assume where my thoughts lie.

After all, I wasn't about to say that at all. The question is whether or not the spell itself imbues the creation with a soul, not if created life can have a soul.

[telepathicignorance]

I mean, it sure seemed like that's what you were saying.

How are you so sure that souls are even real? Most people in my world just treat it as a shorthand for human level consciousness.

[passimclamoribus]

I've held many a soul in my hands! Of course I've also ripped apart just as many, ahahahaha!

[telepathicignorance]

(...So he's a villain. Like, an actual villain villain, not just someone in a mask.)

That's an interesting power.

[passimclamoribus]

Quite, but not the topic of this conversation, I'm afraid. Suffice to say that yes, I am very certain that souls are real.

[telepathicignorance]

I'm getting the feeling you wouldn't necessarily care even if they do have souls.

[passimclamoribus]

Now why on earth would you think such a thing?

If they wished to offer themselves up, that would be one thing. To bind another soul without their consent? Rather distasteful, if you ask me.

[telepathicignorance]

You were just laughing about ripping souls apart.

At least you have some standards, I guess.

I can't see or hold souls, but I'm pretty sure the wives are people. They understand their situation in a way most animals wouldn't.

text because oh that's not winning you any favor al

[treebornekettlegirl]

Mind repeating that? People aren't anyone's property.

[passimclamoribus]

I stand by what I said: how can you be so certain that what was created falls into the category of "person?"

[ Why is everyone so focused on that point? Goodness! ]

My, we truly are not considering all of the details here, are we?

[treebornekettlegirl]

They're not total mindless animals running on instincts. Trust me, I've seen how they acted when they were chasing me. Just cause they aren't human doesn't mean they don't have some intelligent thought in their skulls. Maybe you should take their example and get one yourself.

[passimclamoribus]

Did you actually use the human excuse ò̴̯̪̅̐̍͑ṇ̴̦̠͚̬̙̿ ̸͉̜̃̏̽́̈́͛̀́̉̔̚m̶̨̡̠̩͖̮̫̎̀̋͂͠ȩ̷̛̟͎̝̹̲̲̌͑̀̆̈̆̓̒͘?̵̢̡͉͖͎̖̏̈́͑́̈̓̈̾͛̒͐́̕

Are you certain that you have an intelligent thought in your skull?

[treebornekettlegirl]

What if I did? Whatcha gonna do about it, antlers?

[That wasn't what she was getting at, but if it pisses him off, then she'll go along with it.]

Clever, bet it took all the brain cells rattling around your head to come up with that one. How do you do it?

[passimclamoribus]

Child, do not mistake my jovial attitude from our previous interactions as leeway to be disrespectful.

[ Seriously. Just don't. ]

Instead of thinking to insult my person, realize the hard truth of my words: we were not thinking when the request was first issued. There was never going to be a revival of his wife, only ever a creation.

[treebornekettlegirl]

You want respect, gramps? Earn it.

[Ranma's got a habit of being rude to people who could easily kill her. Someone like Alastor isn't new.

That being said...]

I'll give you that though. He did trick us. When I saw the blurb, thought he was going to resurrect his dead wife. We made a mistake then. Now, we're gonna correct it.

[passimclamoribus]

Don't tempt me, ti gason. You may not like the result.

[ Because shadows and radiowaves are abundant and Alastor can use both. ]

Really, the entire "blurb" should have been a red flag. Who is to say that he wouldn't have been going against his wife's wishes, if his wife ever existed at all? You speak of these creatures about whether or not they should be treated like this, but what about consent of the deceased wife?

[treebornekettlegirl]

[She has zero clues what ti gason means but gonna assume its not nice]

Big words coming from something that people hunt for sport.

[Oh yeah? Well she's got shounen protagonist abilities!]

I've seen people do crazier and more messed up things for their 'love' whether they want it or not. How was anyone supposed to guess he'd use a dead wife just to create his own personal slaves?